Are they serious? lols… I mean, it’s 9 against 4…

poor girl, you don’t know sones… loyal til the end!
and just because of that comment (if she was seriously doing it) it shows HOW MUCH you still have to learn of your sunbaes.. something called respect and humility u.u

technically s/mileage are the sunbaes, snsd is brand new to the jpop industry.

She’s funny lol
“We’re fresher” lol
Don’t go crazy and pissed though, she has a big mouth tendency sometimes, but she’s also very lovable so is all of S/mileage. I think SNSD will do well, but S/mileage and everyone else are already pretty established so they’ll probably come out on top.
Best of luck to all groups!

wow~ Let’s see :)

I hope she was only kidding, but seriously….
The only thing they can beat Shoujo Jidai(SNSD) is the Japanese language and the age factor lol.
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I think they pick the wrong fight lol.
Kid got guts though.

wow first time i hear someone call other groups rivals instead of the “we are all friends”, it shows how honest she is

Comparing SNSD to S/mileage is so wrong. XD I don’t see how they’re “rivals” at all. Kanon was correct; S/mileage is very fresh and new, and also very YOUNG. SNSD is a lot older than them, so they can sing more serious songs. Can you see S/mileage singing “Genie”? No way!

And johnnydorama is right; S/mileage is actually the “sunbaes” in this round, sorry SNSD fans.

lol she made me loled hard

well…how come is S/mileage so fearful of SNSD? and is it true that SNSD is just number 2 in the mixi charts, just behind AKB48?

jerks! why do you have to compare urselves with SNSD? You guys are so FULL OF YOURSELVES. Who would ever say that other groups are ur rival & you’re better than them?

uh oh let’s see who gonna out skank who

OH NO SHE DIDN’T…LOL
but yeah if the netizens saw this, oh girl you are done!!!!
its one thing to talk about snsd but its a whole lot different when they’re talkin about my Morning Musume!!!

Yeah, probably a bad idea. I mean, even if she didn’t mention SNSD, she also included Momosu and AKB. :o

@11 And summore, Pathetic! Let’s see how you’re doing with ur album when SNSD already topped on Oricon chart even when their album haven’t even released yet

@12 are u implying SNSD are skanks? pls go find out what’s the meaning of skanks 1st..

WUUUUT DID YOU JUST SAY ?? lmfao you better watch out .. you dont know how scary NETIZENS can be dont just say whatever you want to say you better be careful next time “Fukuda Kanon” i think she said they’re frseher coz she’s or they’re younger? but nuh uh .. well i havent seen them perform so i cant really compare but i think SNSD will still be better.. LOL its 9 against 4..

Johnny, I love you lol. I’m not going to blindly love my SNSD, you’re absolutely right.
This girl seems slightly stuck up, and if she were in f(x) (or Korea in general), she would get her ass kicked, but I guess this is all done in good humor? Idek.

uh oh. wrong movee there…
i wouldnt be scared if i was SNSD.
but we’ll see (:

Lol the comments over here are classic. I cant wait for the battle. I think its gonna be a wrap when AKB48 hears about this.

honey child….can u hit taengoo’s high notes :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sotyu-A9EXM&feature=related ..
i dont think so!!

can u pop and lock like hyoyeon…dont think so….

i really do hope japan stops concentrating on SNSD’s legs.. and recognizes their talent…

lol cannot believe some of you are getting bent out of shape because of a stupid “fresh leg”(wtf?) competition. Seriously, its all done in good humor. Everybody, lets take a deep breath and get along~

Check out the statement here at :53
/watch?v=LOh0il7tKqY

she’s just joking and everyone laughs. why a lot of people are so serious?

And the article =.=

Some of ya’ll are taking this way too seriously. Girl idol groups in Japan are always asked who are their rivals/the people they would like to surpass.

you know you dont want to mess with netizens , baby . They can be wayy too violent if they want to .

s/mileage beats SNSD
and momusu and AKB48 totally beat SNSD
s/mileage <3 <3 <3

Their legs may be fresher than SNSD.. but girl even the Keisuke Honda and his mates can’t keep up with the army that is AKB/SKE.

LOL! people are taking this way too seriously CHILL people CHILL! its was just a joke, these girl’s got character! XD

i saw the video that someone posted. i guess it was a “joke” but in korea, idols would deny that they’re rivals, LOL. i guess it’s different around here.

Wow…..all of the Kpop fans commenting must be die-hard SNSD fans. I like a few SNSD songs, but was never a true fan. Who knows…maybe S/mileage has a chance.

ALTHOUGH….Morning Musume, BRIGHT, or AKB48 would totally demolish SNSD…just saying

hey people and fellow Sones!
dun neeed to be agitated
i actually think that its good that they even include SNSD as their rivals
at least its show that they are so recognised in Japan that people have alr considered them as some formidable groups isnt it?
so from my point of view, i see it as a healthy competition.
:)
lets go soshi lets go!

im honestly just waiting for something on tokyohive saying that s/mileage was attacked by sones at the concert or something!! lol like seriously, sones r very scary when it comes to snsd and other groups being compared…woooooo….cant wait -v-

REALITYBITES: She’s in JAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPAAAAAANNNN. The worst things that korean netizens could do to her is hack her blog, send death threats or maybe indirectly assaulting her through her agency’s branch in Korea…
Come to think of it, I may be a tactic to make them even more famous. You need to have haters to do so you know.

OH I ♥ U KANON!XD

Have you guys seen this article on ALLKPOP?
Seriously, it is disgusting as to how much negative comments are present!
Mainly it is hard-core SNSD or some K-Pop lovers who are anti-J-pop spreading nasty stuff.
The only thing I want to input is that if some dislike something, there is no need to add more hate.
Guess some parents are not teaching their kids manners these days. Or something like that.

SNSD JJANG Fighting!!!

and i just wanna say, i would like to see s/mileage try singing snsd songs like into the new world, live…that is a hard song to sing to w/those dance steps! i dunt think that they could…….ALL snsd songs has a highlight of taeyeons high note and i would like to see how they try to reach it without sounding like they’re squeaking throughout the whole thing

@SHIN3estars: XD ~ and I’d like to see SNSD sing in Kansai-Ben too ~

yipes! of all the things you can compare you had to choose legs? lolz thats really cute. but Buono! still pwnz S/milage, and SoShi pwnz em all.

debut single hasn’t even dropped yet and snsd is already getting called out… so proud!

@JoanneTong: Topped the oricon…? What do you mean… “Genie”?? Isn’t that on… 09/08? You got to kidding… that’s like “Love Rainbow” day…

@34 Not exactly,it seems u dont know much about allkpop. There are a lot of SNSD haters out there pretending to be Sones and bashing other groups with bad words. It’s internet,u dont expect ppl to behave honest and nice:(

who cares about netizens, japan is different from korea. they can talk all the shit they want

#33 Well, your “if” seems ridiculous to me，unless netizen’s retardness is beyond my imagination or some ppl intend to give SNSD a bad name which is more likely.

i have just been to allkpop and its crazy how butthurt fanatics snsd are. its just a comment made by a 15 years old. gosh. . these so called fans are just bringing bad names to snsd and picking a fight with jpop fans when snsd is trying to debut in japan is so uncool

#30 Of course SNSD wont consider to compete with AKB or Morning Museum in Japan,at least at the moment.SNSD still has many activities in other asian countries. As a sone myself, I think it’s a good thing that some other group mention SNSD since 9 girls are still rookies in Japan. Thanks to S/mileage girls and wish both groups good luck.

#43 I can’t find a single “if” on my own post. OMG.

No literally maybe, but ou know what I am talking about:D

#47 Oh maybe I do. XD ~

@smileaegis2009 #4o Hmm…sorry, it should be “They even topped the Oricon Chart even before they debut” Hey, look at the news here: *SNSD debuts at number 2 on Oricon DVD chart* http://www.allkpop.com/2010/08/snsd-debuts-at-number-2-on-oricon-dvd-chart But still, my bad…T^T

#49 Pardon me. My definition of “Top” is different from yours. I wonder where the number of sales went…

SONEs who are busting in here with their guns ablaze should calm down a second lol. j-pop isn’t k-pop where everyone is afraid of incurring the wrath of anti-fans and stepping on toes…
This just goes to show that SNSD is being noticed by other idols without even having officially dbuted yet. Woot~

I feel bad for clueless idiots like JoanneTong…because SNSD will get their pretty little legs torn off by Arashi & HO-KAGO TEA TIME,kidding i don’t mean it, just like aibon no.2 (kanon). I think it’ll still be interesting to see SNSD’s debut singles performance though, considering Kara sold a little less than than MM’s latest single, but we can all admit that was the worst single ever…But more importantly lets hope all the SONEs support SNSD and purchase the single at a oricon vendor to contribute to the weekly chart…unlike DBSK’s cassies who didn’t do crap all to support them when they debuted in Japan.

Ugh~ the allkpop comments are really stupid. SNSD are rookies in Japan. Whatever they do in Korea most Japanese are not aware of. Of course they have to build their own fanbase in Japan. Plus K-pop- is most definitely not the same as J-pop~

idk why everyones going crazy over that comment because whatever you say isn’t going to boost snsd’s sale numbers. and honestly what she said did have some truth in it considering japan is full of pedos and s/mileage girls ARE fresher. therefore, they would be better in the views of japanese fans. snsd still has a very very VERY long way to go in japan so i think maybe sones should stop glorifying them and thinking that they’re already top idols in japan where no one can talk smack bout them. and netizens are going to have absolutely no affect on s/mileage cuz its not like they’re buying there cds anyways…so unless they plan on flying all the way to japan just to protest agianst s/mileage, there not gonna do anything but troll online.

#53 Though I agree that kpop fans should not bash a 15 year girl, I have to say the reason why Kpop fans are mad of this little girl is that she sounded like the best girl group in Kpop has no too much more than great legs. This is so wrong and a kinda insult to kpop. Unlike the girls idol groups in Jpop,no kpop groups would sucess without much talent.Keep in mind, I am just saying “girls idol group”,Jpop has a lot of great artists,but in terms of female idol group, Kpop has higher standard in dancing and singing.
Even if Kpop groups would not make it in Japan,you still cant deny the fact.

well, why wouldnt she think that…thats how snsd have been promoting themselves the whole time…all those articles that mention snsd+japan always have to mention their “great legs”

I wasn’t going to comment on this, but now I will.
GET A GRIP ON YOURSELVES. The comment was obviously a light one and wasn’t expected to be taken seriously.
I don’t like nor care for either of them, but it is clearly shown that SNSD fans are delusional thinking that their idols have already ‘topped’ Japan. MY ASS.
I’m done. This is why I hate girl groups.
If you don’t know what J-Pop is all about, then just run off to your cozy little haven you call “K-Pop” – we don’t need you here!
/rant.

#56 So she is not well informed right? From kpop fans perspective,she is a bit arrogant. And one thing need to be corrected,it’s not SNSD promote themself,it’s the Company. As a sone,I would like to see SNSD member do much more than promoting the “great legs” image. And they do get the talent to do much more. Taeyoen Tiffany and Sunny are all great singers, Hyo and Yuri are extremely good dancers. But the sad thing is SM and Universal only care about money.

I really dont like Sone and SNSD, and the main reason is they always try to bash other group by very rude comments and acts..I am so impress by S/mileage`honesty, they said what they think, but not rude or foolish..What about SNSD? I dont mentioned what they did in the past, they try to get to the top in Japan but all the things we know about them in Japan is just “ pretty legs“..and nothing else

its not her fault she’s not well informed either. because they came to japan as korea’s #1 girlgroup w/ great legs. as long as they’re promoting in japan they’re going to be that girl group with great legs. from a j/kpop fan’s perspective shes not being arrogant cuz shes not saying it in korea shes in japan where its more lenient.

#57 Dear fangirl,dont put your words into others’ mouth.Check out #45 and #55 neff said.
And who r u? You tone is really bossy and I bet the essential reason u dont like girl groups is that u r a lady XD

#61 – It wasn’t particularly said to anyone here. I was just saying that in general from reading comments around and I don’t feel like/want to comment there.
I very much like Perfume, but that’s it.
I am not bossy at all, I just want to make my point clear. :\

SNSD jjang! Enough said! SNSD <3

@60 I am not saying it’s her fault. I am saying Kpop fans have a reason to be unpleasant from their perspective.
@59 SNSD is known to be very polite and professional according to all the staff,PD artist and fans in Kpop.That’s part of the reason they are loved by publicity.In a country like Korea, the rude ppl would never success as public figure.
And regarding to u comments on Sone, I wont defend since I already waste too much time in defending the girls. Haters gonna hate.

“Break a leg” to SMILEAGE,LOL PUNS INTENDED :D

i like how you use the term “unpleasant” have you read the things they wrote in both allkpop and tokyohive?

wow~ this must be the article with the most comments on TokyoHive EVER! lol

anyway, I think the girl was just joking around
but it’s still SNSD for me lol

let’s go SoShi let’s go!

People stop dissing k-pop please! -.- It puts j-pop in a bad light…
I don’t understand why some k-pop fans comes in here butt hurt over these comments though, since some of you diss j-pop too :/

Anyways why can’t she say that her group can’t lose to anyone? That’s a pretty normal thing isn’t it? Even if you think you’re going to lose (since MM and AKB48 are more popular) it’s not like you can say “Hey!! Know what? We gonna lose.. anyways bye ~~”
She got spirit, that’s great :)

I think this is just a bit of friendly banter, I mean, a joking tone is really hard to convey through text on a screen. And a little bit of friendly competition never hurt anyone~!
SNSD fighting~ ^^

actually its the japanese media and netizens who called snsd as a 9 memebr with beautiful legs.. they didnt promote themselves having pretty legs.. whilst on mileage case.. they are the ones emphasising their legs.. they cant wait for the public to priase their “fresh legs”

and hwere is the edit buttn when i need it?oO

*praise*

@64 I can’t see why korean fans/netizens are angry? As I stated she just told the media that her group won’t lose to anyone and even saying that SNSD is their rival is pretty cool since SNSD is a rookie group in Japan right now :).. And she didn’t make fun of them by saying the leg thing lol SNSD is known to have long legs so she said that her group has a more fresh image that will make them win even against long pretty legs ^^ I just think it’s some of the more.. eh.. devoted fans who took it as something negative and blew an innocent comment out of proportions..
And to your other statement about the girls being very respectful and professional… There have been a LOT of occasions where they showed unprofessionalism and been more or less disrespectful (even some of them are pretty recently…) ^^’ Just saying…

But yeah I love both group so I hope they will have a nice battle :D And hey! This is just gonna make SNSD more known ^^

Joking Around??oh pleasse
you don’t need to dis other to just Joke that’s still completely wrong!!!plus this girls too short!!and if their short their legs are F@kin6 sh0rt t0ooo!!!

sones please stop blowing this and other things out of proportion!! I am positive that she did not mean to diss anybody. And please remember that Tiffany was once in this situation where the fans mistook her comment towards a senior. I am NOT going against sones because I am a VERY big sone myself, but with the comments that sones are making is making the others who look at both sides of this argument look bad as well as SNSD.

Pleasee, no fighting!

@73 well wotas like em short..and fresh…and shiny…and, and, and…woot Lolicons Banzai!!!!

#73 I WONDER WHY SHE’S SHORT… Um. SHE’S 15! She’s not even done growing yet! God. Just blowing this all out of proportion. It’s “wrong” to freaking judge someone because of a petty comment.

Ahaha, I’ve been waiting for the day when Jpop and Kpop clash.

S/Mileage clearly have no idea what they’re in for…

Also, for any SNSD fans/SONE’s, stop losing it; they’re not being dissed, in fact SNSD should be honored that they’re being acknowledged by Jpop idol groups so early on.
This isn’t something to be taken seriously, it’s only light fun. S/Mileage clearly have no personal grudge against SNSD.

already commented on allkpop… but the hating was too much and i had to come here… personally i like shoujo jidai much better than s/mileage… but you have to admit that snsd would not get far in korea if they didnt get plastic surgery… and in korea, plastic surgery isn’t considered a “bad” thing… and they focus on talent
however, you have to admit that japanese girl groups do have a small tendency to go for looks before talent… (and i love japan and am japanese btw) because many stars do not get major or any plastic surgery… and for each country these groups have very different purposes.
besides from that.. does anyone realize that translations can be a tricky thing… in one language a word can have a much lighter meaning… and i think its a compliment that they consider them rivals… cuz that means that they think of them as a “threat” and recognize them… she put them in the same area of akb48 and morning musume, which is actually (in my opinion) a pretty good thing…
so gl shoujo jidai <3 ganbatte!

BTW Has anyone seen the fans for s/mileage? they are all OTAKU. Shoujo jidai has a lot more "girl" fans LOL

Yeeeah, we really need the clip, I think the Kpop fans are reading this differently >.>

@hikari130, Plastic Surgery again? I know ”SOME” of them took it but it were MINOR ONES/minor surgery, it is not as if they changed there entire faces to look pretty, SNSD are not just loved by Korea/ASIA because of their pretty faces my dear they are loved because of their capabilities talent and personality wise..

PUH-LEAZE! s/mileage has great legs? PFT i almost cried from laughter after comparing the 2 photos. S/mileage is gonna go downnnn. if i knew they were good then i would have heard of them :P
acknowledged early or not, soshi was popular the MINUTE they arrived. and yes, it was an insult to snsd.

@salio: im not saying plastic surgery is a bad thing or anything… and i dont like them cuz they are pretty… i jsut think their songs/dances are addicting.. but i saw other comments saying that s/mileage was ugly and blah blah blah so i thought i would just point out that different counties have their own views. that’s all. personally looks dont really matter to me cuz most of the time when you listen to music you wont be looking at their faces, right? just enjoying the music and working on whatever you’re doing ^^

honestly, smileage so cool! Is there any 15 age idol who dare to compete with SNSD before? Only smileage. Yes SNSD is great at singing and dancing. But IMO, smileage is the truly idol! They will be more stronger when they grow up! You know, i think when japanesse read the news that smileage want to compete with SNSD, all people in Japan will suport idol from their country, because this is not abot which group sing the best or have a great legs. This is about Japan you know? otaku, old man, young man, girls, boys. i dont want to think SNSD fans in japan will cheer smileage. but when smileage show their japanesse spirit like this, i dont know… wow Smileage really dangerous i think LOL. god luck for SNSD LOL

Kpop vs Jpop.
lol. Jpop is my first love but Kpop is my current addiction. XD can’t choose who to support.
Oh well~ can’t wait to see the clip. :3

wow a cat-fight!!

lol..no wonder i love j-girl group more..

S/mileage ftw !!!

What I love about Tokyohive is that I can read articles in peace and comment on any ones that interest me without any fanwars . . .
So thanx for keeping it that way *sarcasm*
Ugh enough. Many of you bashing Fukuda Kanon don’t even know about S/mileage and those of you who do should know what she’s going on about.
I’m happy SNSD is garnering attention, period. Let’s wait and see how things go

Oh good lord. Kpop fans want their idols to do good in Japan wow you are really helping them out by bashing Japanese groups. How do you expect your idols to do good in another country if you bash that countries idol groups? I can’t believe you all say you are fans of SNSD I doubt they would agree to you bashing another group while they just started promoting in that country.

#79 SNSD members are not born with singing and dancing ability…
In the first place,they are good-looking kids,that’s why SME would pick them up and train them for years. It’s quite stupid to judge if ppl did plastic surgery by one or two pics. You can find many childhood pics of SNSD members looks great,so would that imply they didnt do the job? If you think SNSD had plastic surgery just because a few past pics and ignore the other very fine ones, google “japnese plastic surgery”,you will see how many Jpop stars did the surgery and not minor.

I only think S/mileage is too young to say things about their legs, lol xD (and compare them to others)
They’re my favourite group, but why the LEGS?
I mean, they have other things that are way better, like their VOICES :)
But…I wonder if Kanon was even serious about this statement :)
I could imagine her joking around xD

mileage dangerous?? *dies from laughing*

SNSD jjang!

I dont care did idols get plastic surgery or not..everyone wants to become more beautiful, its not wrong…they totally can successed if they really have talent and good behavior…not every idols can do this…of course, their fans are one of the main factor that help them become more popular..but as I see, almost Sone`s comment about this news is very impolite

I dont care did idols get plastic surgery or not..everyone wants to become more beautiful, its not wrong…they totally can success if they really have talent and good behavior…not every idols can do this…of course, their fans are one of the main factor that help them become more popular..but as I see, almost Sone`s comments about this news is very impolite

Have everyone seen this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSr4Q4IIs7U
She was JOKING ! It’s not a competition or whatever ! Don’t start a war because of a joke –;

I am not a sone, but I have to say this all kpop fans arent that crazy, some I admit are, Kpop and Jpop are diffrent but good in thier ways dont compare the both,Sones might take this hard tho becauce I can admit Kpop fans dont have any humor, Plus I am a Kpop fan myself, but not all Kpop fans bashes,

I anways say SNSD Hwaiting!!!!, but its unesesary to have fight about good legs, I dont wanna be mean but it would have better for S/mileage if they didnt say this joke I know its a joke, but some Kpop fans are very sensitive, keep that in mind they can attack in any worse way,

I knew it would turn into a sensitive subject about SNSD as usually

I’m sorry, but sones are being as stupid as ever. Its not like you guys are defending SNSD

its ok if you just defend them, but some of you guys start bashing jpop and jpop girl groups. c’mon, if you want jpop fans to start liking snsd you might wanna be nicer instead of being a child and start attacking other girl groups. especially when there more established in japan. i wouldnt like a girl group if there fans are attacking all the time.

I knew fans from AllKpop would come here and start bashing S/mileage (nothing new there =.=’)…
There isn’t even a reason since she DID NOT make fun of them in any way (like some butt hurt fans are saying!)Try and read what she is saying again!
“SNSD is known as the idols with great legs, but we’re fresher. Everyone here, along with our seniors Morning Musume, AKB48, and SNSD are our rivals. However, we have fresh great legs and can’t lose to anyone.”
Yes SNSD is known for having great legs with their Genie dance like KARA is known for their buttdance! She didn’t make fun of them by saying that since SNSD is known in that manner (and how can you even find it as an insult when it obviously isn’t?? I would love it if people told me that I had great legs lol it’s a compliment people!)
She only said that her group won’t lose to any group.. it would be really weird if she said that S/mileage was gonna lose to everyone and that they didn’t have any confidence in winning lol..

Seriously some of these comments just show that it’s not even because some k-pop fans want to “protect” SNSD, you are clearly just here to bash j-pop since a k-pop vs. j-pop thing is going on which is so typical!!! =.= Seriously just stay on AKP…

It’s only about a 15 yrs old kid joking about something not even important, and Sones got mad?? While they write an article about SNSD surpassed AKB48 and no idols in Japan pretier than Yoona. Sigh.. you guys need to grow up and get some life.

I don’t quite condone some of the more passionate SONEs and AllKpop fans comments towards this, but some of you TokyoHive and Jpop fans are no better when you right scathing remarks about thier comments towards them. They’re just passionate like you are.
Now, I’ve never heard of S/mileage, but seeing there young age, it was a joke but they are probably using this to gain more attention, it’s a tactic that’s been used for a long time. AKB48 and all the other 48’s I have heard of, and I’ll only say this, it’s easy to sound good when there’s 48 of you.
I’m a huge Kpop fan, especially for KARA and SNSD and I wish them the best in Japan, whether or not they’ll beat the local Jpop talent is unknown, but SNSD and KARA are no.1 in my heart

it’s funny how a japan-based idol group is challenging SNSD, a newbie in japan. :D
oh well. sones love snsd not because of LEGS but bcause of their talent and personality. ^^

Aww~ Sones bashing on another group….what’s new?
Dude chill the hell out it’s a joke r___r
You want SNSD to do good in Japan but you’re going to bash on an already establish jpop group? Any S/Mileage fans might become SNSD fans going to get turn off by this. Remember how DC08 started? Want SNSD to get boycott in Japan too?

I don’t understand why Kpop fans hate Jpop so much. I always read mean comments about Jpop left by Kpop fans, saying Kpop is far superior in every way possible. And I think it’s completely silly and pointless. I personally love both Kpop and Jpop. But I do favor Jpop. I guess some fans think you can only like one or the other. It’s ironic they everyone is making a big deal about S/mileage saying SNSD are their rivals, when Kpop and Jpop fans/fandoms are always constant rivals.

And I don’t understand why a big deal is being made about this anyway. S/mileage singles only sell about 20k. It will be years before they surpass anyone.

That’s why I don’t like going to AKP to read comments on such articles like this. Geez people, chill down. I’m sure the girl mean the challenge as a friendly challenge not a real dead-or-alive challenge. And please, SNSD haven’t debuted in Japan yet! What’s with comparing them to the other Jpop girl groups? Kpop and Jpop are different genres, you can’t compare two different kinds of music.. it’s like an apple and an orange.
And please haters, can’t you just keep your unworthy bashing to yourselves?
These girls maybe professional performers but for pop’s sake! They’re also HUMANS, they got FEELINGS!
Stop calling SNSD plastic surgery group because you don’t have any effing evidence to prove your accusations. And stop hating on S/mileage because they’re just kids to begin with!
To other people who are not fans of either group: Please do understand that the fans’ comments and rantings only reflects themselves and their own personalities, and hope that it wouldn’t stain the groups’ images.
To the fans: how will you feel if someone emailed the article together with your comments to your idol groups? Do you think they will be proud of having you as their fans? Seriously..

Like someone popular quoted: Music is not a competition. It was given to us to enjoy, not to fight over with. But if music is the reason why there are fan wars everyday 24/7 on the web, then I guess artists should stop making music.

SNSD a.k.a SHOUJO JIDAI fighting…
doesnt matter what she said but I love SNSD forever.

Stop fighting ! Kpop and Jpop legs are both good !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSr4Q4IIs7U&feature=player_embedded

that is the clip of kanon saying what she said. No one is angry, and everyone is giggling, if she really wanted to pick a fight, its evident that she, at that, anyone, could do much better.

And why do all these AKP people migrate to tokyo hive to talk about how much better kpop is? There’s a reason why we have two sites for this kind of stuff. some of these comments should be kept to themselves, whether kpop fan or jpop fan.

Sones & kpop fans shouldnt going around and bashing other jpop groups cause of you the whole fandom get a bad image and you shouldnt do it because of a little girl who did a joke ^^ And jpop fans pls consider some of these anti comments are only made by some kids, who dont know better (or even by some fake sones who only spreading hate -.-) so dont be to angry :) I myself like both k- & j-pop. My absolute favourutes? AAA,SUJU & SNSD ;)

i will just copy my comment at akp

LOL what’s the big deal of this?!
i think it’s cute snsd being notice by idol in japan hahaha
bout legs or not, my girls proven they not just bout legs but bout talents
so let them have some healthy competition i think it will be great for both groups

And there goes why I don’t like claiming myself as a SONE even though I’m an SNSD fan, it’s because you SONE’s make not only SNSD look bad, but the whole kpop music itself. Learn to show some respect towards artists. SNSD wouldn’t be proud of you guys being their fans if you’re just bashing at other artists like this. It’s a shame to know that SNSD have fans who behaves like this when clearly SNSD doesn’t.

i’m sick of the bashing towards jpop in a jpop site.

Us S♥NES are powerful and competitive people. If you mess with our 9 angels then you get a beating.
BUT I don’t see the big deal in this type of situation. It’s just a friendly competition and it just means that SNSD is already largely recognized. That Jpop girl group meant no harm so there is nothing to bash about.
Fellow S♥NES; please don’t ruin the image of our 9 angels ^^

“If you mess with our 9 angels then you get a beating.”

WHAT THE HALE?! We get a beating just because we don’t think SNSD is the GREATEST. GIRL. GROUP. ON. EARTH?!

I’m sorry. SONES are f*cked up.

@#117
Did I ever say that you had to think of them as the best girl group on earth? NO!
What i’m talking about are the people who bash them with stupid reasons ^^

s mileage –> younger
snsd —> better legs
its not all about the legs with snsd though
they have great vocals and choreography…and since i know nothing of s mileage they should take that into consideration as well.. this isnt a “leg” battle -.-;;;

It’s annoying. Really. I’m annoyed with how some people are bashing S/Mileage, I don’t even like them yet I still don’t think they deserve to be bashed, and how people are bashing SNSD. It’s annoying how some people think that you can’t compare jpop and kpop. They’re both “POP”, same genre just different language. It’s most annoying how people are using SONES’ bashing as an excuse to hate on SNSD. A group’s fans don’t reflect a group’s personality.

Sones and kpop fans should fucking stop bashing Jpop groups unless you want SNSD to win some awards in Japan or get a successful start there. Cuz Japan can read your comments and some might stumble upon this page and start a rally agains Kpop groups/artist. Not threathning anybody but just saying that what you Kpop fans and sones say might that bashes these groups (momusu, akb48, s/mileage, etc.) might come back as a karma. Think about what you going to write pls.

‘@116 LOL the one that make some mess is you and sones isn’t it? I see all jpop fans is excited to see how things going, but AKP come and start to bashing jpop. If this harsh comment to jpop still continue, the one that wll get beating is SNSD. They come and get popularity, but if they dont respect the jpop group, no mater how much they sell, how many fans they have, they will not welcome again in japan. no tv show in japan, media, or music corp. want them. Yes this is Japan. you have maners you got A. otherwise you’ll get E.

Love S/mileage~!

Kanon you are amazing XD I love both groups! I think it is kinda cute too ^^

go S/mileage!!! Kick SNSD’s asses off back to where they belong…Japanese should support their own, stick to Japanese artists (except for JYJ). SNSD! You should know where you really belong, you with fake faces. Hey guys, check this out: http://standintl.motionforum.net/
this is where you can find anything about SNSD’s past esp. their original ugly faces.

Just shut up to all SNSD and SONEs…they’re all bitches who are so trying hard to reach the top which is obviously impossible for them… go JPOP!

@loveprinceshim, and what does ugly faces have anything to do with talent? I hate it when antis bring up the “plastic surgery” method. I have a girl in my class who is quite frankly, not very pretty. She’s popular, she gets straight A’s, a 4.0 GPA and is the 1st seat Violin. So talent has nothing to do with how you look. Also, I know that there are hardcore S♥NES out there, but people shouldn’t generalize all S♥NES as immature and giving SNSD a bad image. Might I also point out, that it is S/mileage who challenged SNSD, not the other way around? Plus, the reason was “we have fresher legs”. I don’t honestly know if they meant it seriously or as joke, but like people have said, music (or legs) shouldn’t be used as competition. S♥NES are a defensive group of fans, plus I don’t think j-pop fans know just how much SNSD had to go through their debut. They even had glowsticks THROWN AT THEM. Thing is, if S/mileage didn’t want an outburst of drama from the fans, they shouldn’t have said that – let alone, in public.

THIS whats called Culture-Clash!!

Some might not really familiar(i Mean REALLY,understand!) with such ‘cold-joke’..(Actually she attempt to be funny..but Fail!!)

Hope SNSD’s fans need to “start getting familiar” with such situation :)

The best way to finish this stupid fighting is Sone should stay in AKP and say anything they want…please, dont go to tokyohive and mess it up…let us alone

LMAO every bashful comments to S/mileage are considering all SONE’s comments
How convenient?
being TROLLED people is dumb

i see a battle going on here!! between sones and s/mileage fans…i dunt understand y ppl hate snsd for “doing” plastic i dunt think they did..but lets say this, if ur friend did plastic surgery and then made it big in korea or where ever, would u hate her for it?? she can sing and has talent…r u going to be like YOU’RE A FAKE AND UR UGLY!! EVERYONE HATES U!!!!!!!! i dunt think so…even though snsd isn’t ur friend it doesnt give u any right to bash them!! u dunt see snsd saying crap to u guys saying that they r more beautiful and sexier or whatever….and that makes u worse than those “horrible snsd” that u hate.
i honestly dunt really like jpop girlgroups. they may be cute or whatever but i dont want to hear super high pitched voices the whole time!! when i hear japanese girlgroups sing i cant tell the difference..i think that they dont really have an individual unique kind of voice…they all sound alike, except for those few that have kind of lower voices. sure their songs would be catchy, they may be cute and pretty and lots of guys could like that….and i know that they r different from kpop so i dont really care

i hate ppl bashing on snsd because of the rumored plastic surgery..its just rumors!!! it wasnt proved that they did it at all!! and if they grow older and decide to say they did it or not, then u can go ahead and say “aha!” in my face cause then they did it..but if u dont have any proof dunt go saying shit! havent ur parents taught u anything!?? and also dunt go saying shit about another person until u have walked in their shoes….i guesss NO ONE ever heard of that saying..then u should go learn it and be more considerate about other ppl. im not hating on s/mileage, im just saying what i dunt like…it doesnt mean that just because i dunt really like them doesnt mean that i HATE them ok ppl bashing on snsd saying that s/mileage is better???

I doubt the girl was serious, and even if she was, c’mon there’s no comparison, SNSD all the way.

laws of attraction it’s also mental strength of success! only three of
SNSD members are GORGEOUS the rest are
average to ugly but they have force of attraction. on the other hand S/mileage
is very cute and give warm charm but
mental state who knows?

@aki29, now that SNSD is officially part of the Japanese music industry, it’s only fair that TokyoHive create articles for them and have S♥NES from any country support them from both AKP and TH. When you say that SNSD shouldn’t have articles in TH, it’s like saying Kara, F.T. Island, Big Bang, DBSK, 4MINUTE, and other k-pop groups that have been promoting in Japan shouldn’t have articles as well. What, just because you don’t like SNSD nor the S♥NES, they should only have articles in AKP, and not TH? And you say S♥NES are immature.

To be honest, I don’t like s/mileage or SNSD. But, SNSD has a quality about them that S/mileage can’t touch. I mean, one of the girls in s/mileage looks like one of the boys from Hey!Say! JUMP. Not to mention, I don’t see anything amazing about them. All the girls generally sound the same, which is why I stay away from most Japanese girl groups in the first place. And hello? S/mileage

s/mileage can’t dance. And the only thing fresh about them is the fact that they are very unprofessional. /: **

And I would like to point out that the only reason why s/mileage is challenging SNSD is for both groups to get attention. It is a win/win situation c:

all your comment about smileage just make SNSD image getting worse dude. You want to make jpop hate SNSD because of this?

If a group’s fanbase can affect your liking of a group, that is YOUR fault.

Lol, I’m starting to think some of these so called “sones” aren’t even sones at all, just butthurt kpop fans “offended” in the name of kpop. lol

Honestly, I really hate it when groups keep on trying to be the next Tohoshinki in Japan. It feels to me that SNSD or even Kara is not even experiencing the same hardships of Tohoshinki when they first debuted in Japan. Tohoshinki is already considered as Japanese and I hope that others don’t try to dominate Japan anymore. I mean they can dominate Korea no matter when/how they want ’cause TVXQ isn’t there anymore.

Another things, I used to really REALLY love SNSD but I was really turned off with what’s coming out of their mouths and their actions. I hate it when they make incredulous comments and nonsense remarks that hurt other people. I hate how they’re trying to act like perfect little rich kids who always have to get away with what they want.

All I can say is that SNSD are a bunch of people who doesn’t even have manners so why should the Japanese respect them? Japan is a country that’s very strict about manners and conduct. If SNSD are acting like brats in Korea then how much more in Japan?

Why does this have to be a battle of JPOP vs. KPOP, I dont know. I think the real judge here should be talent, and both groups are talented in their own ways. But that’s the thing, both groups are so freaking different that we couldn’t possibly judge them the same. I mean unless we do this by dog show standards and see who has he best legs as we walk them around circular catwalk,then fine. That’s a stupid contest. From where I stand, S/mileage is just mad that their gimmick of short skirts showing their well toned legs is now being out shined with a group with 5 more girls in it. Either that or they need more publicity for their new album. W/e I mean if that’s the case why didn’t they pick on akb48 or something? Its just the case of the bully picking on the new kid. And that aside it was probably both SM and Hello!project organizing this so both groups who are in need of publicity get some. And we’re falling for it, but instead we’re making it an all out war. Also, who cares that snsd aren’t TVXQ ?! They’re not a girl group so who cares to compare the two. Oh they’re both comprised of Korean ppl.. then snsd is horrible! oh gosh. Why shouldn’t they go for world fame if they’ve got the talent and the looks? Anyone worthy should.

Also all the SONES in here are just overreacting. No one challenged you directly, so seriously shut up. This is the reason that dire kpop fans cant always get along with jpop fans. They take their obsession to a whole new level.Why are you offended and bashing JPOP like they’re wrong for liking it? If you’re like any other KPOP fan, then you only got into it because you started listening to KPOP first. And really, Fans of any SM group seem to be the craziest of all KPOP fans. The ELFs and the SONEs, etc. You act like you have to defend them like they’re defenseless babies. No matter what challenge SNSD has thrown at them, whether it be by s/mileage or akb48 anyone else, they’ll still have fans form all over, but they dont need fans that’ll cause them more trouble.

Well your saying its “your” fault if a groups fan base can make you not like a group. Is that a jab at the jpop fans because people not liking a group because of a harmless joke is their fault as well as most kpop fans seem to be acting like somebody just shot their mother in front of their eyes or something.

lol

Another things, I used to really REALLY love SNSD but I was really turned off with what’s coming out of their mouths and their actions. I hate it when they make incredulous comments and nonsense remarks that hurt other people. I hate how they’re trying to act like perfect little rich kids who always have to get away with what they want.

“All I can say is that SNSD are a bunch of people who doesn’t even have manners so why should the Japanese respect them? Japan is a country that’s very strict about manners and conduct. If SNSD are acting like brats in Korea then how much more in Japan?” Proof, please. If you are referring to Tiffany, let me point out that she does not make up SNSD as a whole. I love j-pop just as much as I love k-pop, so I don’t necessarily believe it’s more of a culture-clash than just a minor outburst of defensive S♥NES. S♥NES are just VERY defensive with SNSD, because SNSD’s first years were filled with movement against them.

@Miha: FYI, I’m not only referring to Tiffany but to the NINE OF THEM. In case you don’t know, ALL OF THEM INSULTED AND MOCKED a Japanese song before. Isn’t it proof that they all have attitude problems? Oh, and by the way, if you love kpop, you shouldn’t be visiting this site and start defending your “oh-so-sweet-angels”. Hell! Do your thing in allkpop!

@Miha:I remember that all my comments didnt say Tokyohive shouldnt write about SNSD..I said Sone should stay in AKP because they can talk anything they want. Tokyohive is Jpop`s website, Jpop is different to Kpop, so the way we think and write comment is different Kpop fans, especially some SONE..We never try to bash other goup by very rude, impolite and inconsiderate..You should read my comment more carefully.

@Miha:I remember that all my comments didnt say Tokyohive shouldnt write about SNSD..I said Sone should stay in AKP because they can talk anything they want. Tokyohive is Jpop`s website, Jpop is different to Kpop, so the way we think and write comment is different Kpop fans, especially some SONE..We never try to bash other group by very rude, impolite and inconsiderate comments..You should read my comments more carefully.

LOL KANON.

Haha, why is everyone taking Kanon seriously? It’s… Kanon!

She was obviously joking. xD Plus, it’s better to be over-confident than to have no confidence at all, in my opinion. I think it’s great that Kanon has the passion to want to become a popular idol group.

They even said they wanted to beat fellow Hello! Project group, Morning Musume! XD

And those dissing S/mileage, either by looks, voice, etc., keep in mind that they’re young girls. Ayaka, the oldest, is only 16! And Saki, the youngest, is 13! They still have plenty of time to develop their skills, and their voices, especially Saki’s, are still changing.

-goes off to listen to S/mileage’s new single “Onaji Jikyuu de Hataraku Tomodachi no Bijin Mama”-

Jeez, S/mileage, are your recent single titles long enough? Lol.

Arrogance will be their undoing. I don’t like them already. :P

@loveprinceshim, is this about the whole Bubble Bobble incident? Because if it was, the Korean company who had chose SNSD to sing the remix had possessed the license for that song at that time. Plus, many of their activities are not of their own choosing, but of SM Ent. I don’t honestly see how you would conclude that all nine of them have attitude problems, when you haven’t even met them before. There was one incident when an E.L.F was walking past the SM building hoping to see Suju but sees Tiffany instead. Tiffany waves at the fan but said fan turned away in disgust. When somebody knocked the E.L.F. down (not Tiffany), Tiffany went over to the E.L.F. and apologized for whatever she had done wrong.

@Aki29, I know that you didn’t say that TH shouldn’t write about SNSD. But you keep on saying the SONES should stay in AKP. My argument is that since SNSD is now promoting in Japan, SONES have the right to comment and support SNSD in TH as well, despite the rift between j-pop and k-pop. If you don’t like SNSD, then why bother reading their articles, right? I can see why some SONES might seem rude about s/mileage, but as I have already said, SONES are very defensive because SNSD had some rough debut years.

@miha RIDICOLOUS! snsd is not the one who had some rough debut. u have to find info about how smileage, 13-15 years old, try to debut

why jpop fans tell sones to stay in alkpop, because sones attitude toward JPopo fans…

@Miha..I dont know what I can say now…Finally, I dont say that again..the reason why I said that because of lots of rude comments to S/mileaga`s joke…Alright, Kpop totally can go to TH to see their idol..but, this is Jpop`s website, we can accept SOME SONEs or even Kpop`s fan write rude, impolite and aggresive comments in there..If you cant be a polite person, stay at your page..dont come to other pages and make a fight because of some stupid reasons.

sorry..“ we cant accept“ not “can“ ^^

@eki134: Just because s/mileage debuted young, doesn’t mean a thing. It’s their agency’s decision to have S/mileage debut in their current age. When SNSD was around S/mileage age they were balancing out harsh training while studying at the same time. Also, I’m not talking about SNSD’s age when they debuted. I’m talking about how much antis they got just because many antis were jealous of just how many boy bands admired SNSD. The degree of harshness that SNSD faced during their debut is considerably higher than that of S/mileage.

@Aki29: Honestly, I don’t see any extremist SONES who are threatening, acting violent, etc. to anybody, or S/mileage in that case. Again, I’ll repeat myself that SNSD had some rough debut years that’s why current fans are so defensive. It’s S/mileage’s joke, so they should be ready just how SNSD fans are going to respond. It doesn’t matter if it is AKP or TH; it is still the same situation. I’m sure it was obviously a joke, although some SONES may have found it a direct exclamation of competition. If that is the case, it’s insensible to generalize a whole fangroup based on just a couple of fans. If you are implying that I’m “fighting”, I’m not. I just can’t stand the fact that people are blaming SNSD, when they’ve done nothing or judge SNSD just because of a couple fans. Maybe a j-pop fan’s perspective is different from that of a k-pop fan, but since both group of fans can understand the supporting of particular groups, having different websites for each kind of music doesn’t exactly support what each idol is hoping for – making music to please people.

@Miha: Oh, really? Tiffany acting so nice? I sooo doubt that. She even say insults to Kangin and Shindong for being fat then she’s acting all angelic towards an E.L.F.? LOL! That’s crap!

Proof:
This was written by a korean ELF, about her encounter with Tiffany from SNSD.
{This was translated from Korean to English to Thai and to English again}

English Translations By
Translated by Katty4495
Taken from: zenya@blogshop
Thai Translations By babycute@suju-hwiting
Credit : hiro @ GG-TH

“I traveled from Jeollanamdo to the SM entertainment building hoping to see Suju. While I am walking around in front of the building, I see Tiffany standing there. I looked at her, and then she smiled at me. Right then, I thougt it was such a dreadful smile, I remember it clearly, her disrespectful words towards everyone. I looked at her with hatred in my eyes and looked away without smiling back. Then there’s 2 guys ran at me and I fell to the ground. The glass that contains water in my hand spilled all over me. I thought meanwhile, Tiffany would stand there and laugh at me.. but no. I saw her ran inside the building and came out with napkins, and handed it to me. I received it without looking at her, and then she dust down the dirt on my knee. I asked her aren’t you mad at me for the way I acted? She said No, right now there’s a lot of people who dislike me but then it’s all my fault, I didn’t mean to say anything I said, and really didn’t know. And I am still not used to Korean culture. In America, we can play with elders like friends, next time I will be more careful.
When she’s done, she smiled with the same smile but this time it feels more delicate, the sadness in her eyes made me felt really bad.”

rawr thats fierce! :P

I have to admit that I`m so admire your loyalty, SONE :D

@Aki29, why do you say SONE as if it is a derogatory term? If you don’t like SNSD, then why pay attention to them? People like you are the reason why there are fanwars; it would be more sensible to support your own group and leave the ones you dislike alone. I have groups that I dislike, but I don’t go over to their articles and start hating on them and arguing with their fans; there are some SONES who are like that, but don’t generalize the whole fangroup and the idol group just because one of them is a black sheep.

@miha why aki29 say sone? because all comment that bash smileage come from people wh call them sones…

you said “there are some sones like that” but all i can see was the rude comment (from first post until now — mybe 80% ?) come from people wh call them sones

you said “people like you make a fanwars” LOL cant you see from the first comments…?

you said “I have groups that I dislike, but I don’t go over to their articles and start hating on them and arguing with their fan”……and what are you doing here ?(!)….

@Aki29, again – SONES are very defensive of SNSD and since it was S/mileage who started this whole “competition” thing in the first place, SONES can bash S/mileage if they want to. I myself find this S/mileage’s joke, immature as even the mentioned groups above find it immature as well. “Each member from the aforementioned groups smiled bitterly in response.” – above article.

Again, that’s like what, ten to twenty people? There are hundreds of thousands of SONES all over the world. You can’t look at like what, 1% of a fangroup and generalize all the SONES as threatening and violent.

Technically, it was S/mileage’s fault for causing this. If they meant the whole scandal as a joke, SNSD, MM, and AKB48 doesn’t find it very funny and neither to many SONES.

Please read my post again. I mentioned that I don’t go over to my disliked group’s articles and hate on them – as this is partly SNSD’s article, I

*can support them in their own article. If there are any articles that are about my disliked groups, I don’t go over and comment badly about them and argue with their fans. May I also point out that my comments are basically for SNSD’s defense and they mostly don’t contain any major criticism, threats, nor violent comments about S/mileage.

@Miha No it wasn’t S/mileage’s fault at all that people decided to bash them. It is whoever is doing the bashing it is their fault no one is forcing people to come on here and talk bad about them. How do you even know it was translated correctly. Did you just say that SONES can bash if they want to? So then why would you have a problem with anyone else bashing. Please tell me your not one of those people who think its only ok for a certain group of people to do something but others its not ok