About time you’re posting this lol. :P

About time you’re posting this lol. :P

COOL!!! I should try and buy this~ ^^

COOL!!! I should try and buy this~ ^^

I wonder how this will sell considering Juliette’s poor sales comapred to replay.

And both songs are remakes? boring.

I wonder how this will sell considering Juliette’s poor sales comapred to replay.

And both songs are remakes? boring.

release after release and they are all remakes
i want an original japanese song from them

release after release and they are all remakes
i want an original japanese song from them

Replay sold a lot because it had an application ticket for fan meetings. JULIETTE’s “poor sales” were predictable.
Then I dunno if “LUCIFER” will sell as much as their second single, since Japanese people tend to like cutesy songs more than electro-pop ones (even though lucifer is amazinnng).

hope it sells half of Juliet like with Replay

hope it sells half of Juliet like with Replay

Come on SM! We want new songs! :/

Can they stop with the remakes? Japanese music is already expensive enough, they could at least make it original.

1st remade single – 100%!! YAY1! SHINEE IN JAPAN!! OPPAR!! :D
2st remade single – 50% Cool. I like SHINEE!! Hwaiting ! :)
3rd remade single – 25% Huh. Lol what? :x At least they can dance :|

Although i like SHINee and their music, i gotta say they they need to stop making remakes and record some more songs. Also, Sm need’s to promote SHINee more like they did with SNSD.

with SNSD, they literally had a performance like every week and due to that, they gained popularity.
with SHINee, their popularity is going down due to lack of appearances and i also think that their image doesn’t really fit Japan… 

Your percentages also represent their sales. Lol.

Huh? I thought SHINee appeared on quite a lot of music shows for JULIETTE…

As much as I like Lucifer, Shinee need to make a new song instead of releasing remakes. No wonder their sales are going shit. I expected them to do well since they’re from SME, but their choice of songs and their lack of promotions is going to make them fail harder than they did with Juliette. 

At least they’re releasing on the right day though. Does anyone know where I can get a list of songs that are going to be released in upcoming weeks? Like on what day? Because I know songs are coming up I just forget which week they’re being released ><.

But SNSD were EVERYWHERE. Like a show a day practically. I suppose that’s what you have to do as a Hallyu star to get yourself known.

That’s what I wanted it to mean! XD So hopefully, they get 25% of replay this time.

Ah I see… Thanks for the reply. ^^

Or atleast they should release Hello. it was my favorite (and only)song from them >_> it would go down wayy better than lucifer

Oic lmao. As much as I like Shinee, I want to see them fail. Mainly because of Shawols being bitches. Or Kpop fans in general really. Because HALLYU IS TAKING OVER JAPAN GUYZ!

…I’m such a bitch ><

@6th-aae7ac49a86139b129b5a72e33169b48:disqus Np bb ^^

Lol I actually like Lucifer more than Hello. But I suppose Hello would suit Japan more. Not that it even matters what suits Japan because they are going to fail! lol

It’s EMI, not SM. 

OMG another korean group recyclyng songs

this is pathetic

Same here. I like SHINee (IMO its the only kpop band worth anything) but I’d love them to flop here so most kpop artists GTFO of japan >_> except mayybe boa tvxq and kara. but they probably won’t, coz they like coming to japan for the money. i read an article where the average 7 member kpop girl group needs $60k dollars a month for upkeep. and they obviously won’t make the much in korea.

I heard that in Japan, there are a few businesses working ‘backstage’ to limit the TV appearances on Korean boy groups in particular (a monopoly, dare I say). Their lack of appearances may be due to this. 

I´ll just sit here and watch them flop

THIS
As the majority of Kpop groups they´re in Japan for some quick cash. Don´t expect much quality from them

I’m sorry if you’ve had bad experiences with Shawols and Kpop fans in the past, but please don’t hold the fans’ actions against the artists. The only reason Kpop fans have been hostile here is because of Jpop fans constantly verbally attacking the Hallyu Wave. 

sdhfjksdhfdksghkh They’re gonna release it on my birthday! >.< October 12th~

sdhfjksdhfdksghkh They’re gonna release it on my birthday! >.< October 12th~

sdhfjksdhfdksghkh They’re gonna release it on my birthday! >.< October 12th~

Lol. I like Shinee and Kara :3. My only concerns with Kpop in Japan is that they don’t bother to learn the language (except for… DSP? Idk wherever Kara are from), as well as the fans being annoying with all of the KPOP IS TAKING OVER JAPAN! AKB AND ARASHI ARE SHIT! YEAH! FIGHTING! I suppose if they want money, they want money though :/ I don’t really like that either. I remember reading an article about how much the top three record labels in Korea earned in the first six months this year, and then I read how much the top ten earned in Japan and they were all higher than the Korean ones LOL. I think a single in Japan is worth like half a year in Korea. 

There are good things and bad things about this. So like most people’s response, I am unhappy that this is another remake. But as a Shawol, I can’t help but be excited. Lucifer was SHINee’s most successful song (imo), so I’m excited to see it promoted again. Plus, it’s going to release on my birthday, so I’m super ecstatic! :D Their Korean promotional cycle usually gives me an opportunity to see new releases, or new performances, or thousands of pictures on my birthday. I was worried I wouldn’t get my fill of SHINee on my birthday this year >.< So now I'm really looking forward to it <3  

LOL.
No.
The only reason we are so hostile towards Hallyu is because:
1. They are only in it for the money they dgaf about Japan
2. They can’t speak Japanese wwell (bar Kara and TVXQ)
3. It’s overhyped, especially on AKP
4. (This is the main reason) Kpop fans keep saying that Hallyu is taking over Japan and that all of Japanese artists are shit. They started it imo.

They do try to learn Japanese. Or.. err… honestly idk about the other kpop groups, but SHINee does. It’s just that with all of these scheduled events that they have, where do they find the time? Just this week they had SMTown Live in Tokyo, 2 or 3 events in Russia, and SHINee World Concert in Singapore. I doubt they got the chance to sleep well, much less study Japanese. :/ 

Other Kpop groups may be facing this same problem as well. >.<

It’s not their fault that they haven’t learnt Japanese it’s their agencies ik. Theirs is actually better than most imo (SNSD’s was baaad ><). But that doesn't change the fact that it's still not very respectful to Japan to try and debut there and not know Japanese.

Frankly, I’m torn down the middle on this issue.  I love hearing them promote their Korean songs again, but at the same time I want new stuff.  Well, I think I’d be able to put up with one more single like this (meaning a cover of Ring Ding Dong and AMIGO).  That way they’ll be “all caught up” so to speak and can go on making new stuff!

Frankly, I’m torn down the middle on this issue.  I love hearing them promote their Korean songs again, but at the same time I want new stuff.  Well, I think I’d be able to put up with one more single like this (meaning a cover of Ring Ding Dong and AMIGO).  That way they’ll be “all caught up” so to speak and can go on making new stuff!

Frankly, I’m torn down the middle on this issue.  I love hearing them promote their Korean songs again, but at the same time I want new stuff.  Well, I think I’d be able to put up with one more single like this (meaning a cover of Ring Ding Dong and AMIGO).  That way they’ll be “all caught up” so to speak and can go on making new stuff!

I never really cared about Kpop or Kstuff until they started invading japan. >__< And all jpop related articles on allkpop are soo biased. and the main reason is : tokyohive reports only main topics of jpop, so  we fans have lots of spare time. but allkpop constantly barrages kpop fans with news, lame articles, and stupid reports. they don't come on tokyohive much (other than sones) but if you see any j related article on allkpop. check out the comments. they are VERYY nasty. so i think kpop fans deserve the bashing.

I never really cared about Kpop or Kstuff until they started invading japan. >__< And all jpop related articles on allkpop are soo biased. and the main reason is : tokyohive reports only main topics of jpop, so  we fans have lots of spare time. but allkpop constantly barrages kpop fans with news, lame articles, and stupid reports. they don't come on tokyohive much (other than sones) but if you see any j related article on allkpop. check out the comments. they are VERYY nasty. so i think kpop fans deserve the bashing.

Grammar nazi mode: only reason = one reason. You gave 4. 

I didn’t say you guys were being hostile toward Hallyu without reason. I can see why it would bother all of you. I’ve read the comments, I see the logic. I’m just saying stating why Kpop fans would respond in an equally hostile manner. In your previous post you had implied that the reason you wanted SHINee to fail was because of the fandom, not because of monetary or language barrier purposes. 

I can’t really disagree nor agree with that 4th reason, because when I first came to Tokyohive, I had seen the Jpop fans posting about a Hallyu Wave takeover. But then again, you’ve been here longer than I have. Though I must point out, the blame cannot be fully placed upon Kpop fans if  Jpop fans went along with their claims of a Hallyu takeover. And on a final note, I wish to request of you to make an attempt at criticizing artists based on artistic standards. Please over look the illogical fans that roam the fandom, for not all of us are that way. (: 

Grammar nazi mode: only reason = one reason. You gave 4. 

I didn’t say you guys were being hostile toward Hallyu without reason. I can see why it would bother all of you. I’ve read the comments, I see the logic. I’m just saying stating why Kpop fans would respond in an equally hostile manner. In your previous post you had implied that the reason you wanted SHINee to fail was because of the fandom, not because of monetary or language barrier purposes. 

I can’t really disagree nor agree with that 4th reason, because when I first came to Tokyohive, I had seen the Jpop fans posting about a Hallyu Wave takeover. But then again, you’ve been here longer than I have. Though I must point out, the blame cannot be fully placed upon Kpop fans if  Jpop fans went along with their claims of a Hallyu takeover. And on a final note, I wish to request of you to make an attempt at criticizing artists based on artistic standards. Please over look the illogical fans that roam the fandom, for not all of us are that way. (: 

Grammar nazi mode: only reason = one reason. You gave 4. 

I didn’t say you guys were being hostile toward Hallyu without reason. I can see why it would bother all of you. I’ve read the comments, I see the logic. I’m just saying stating why Kpop fans would respond in an equally hostile manner. In your previous post you had implied that the reason you wanted SHINee to fail was because of the fandom, not because of monetary or language barrier purposes. 

I can’t really disagree nor agree with that 4th reason, because when I first came to Tokyohive, I had seen the Jpop fans posting about a Hallyu Wave takeover. But then again, you’ve been here longer than I have. Though I must point out, the blame cannot be fully placed upon Kpop fans if  Jpop fans went along with their claims of a Hallyu takeover. And on a final note, I wish to request of you to make an attempt at criticizing artists based on artistic standards. Please over look the illogical fans that roam the fandom, for not all of us are that way. (: 

Ah, you mean it would have been better had they learned the Japanese language some more before they debuted? I see. Sometimes companies make decisions in a bit of a rash manner. They may have overlooked this, and I wish there was some to communicate the concern with them. :/ 

Ah, you mean it would have been better had they learned the Japanese language some more before they debuted? I see. Sometimes companies make decisions in a bit of a rash manner. They may have overlooked this, and I wish there was some to communicate the concern with them. :/ 

Are you talking about JE? Subtle reference is subtle -_-. That may have been the case back when TVXQ first tried to debut in Japan but I don’t think that is happening now. In fact, I think it’s the opposite. I think that a fair few Kpop groups are getting performances on music shows from “businesses working ‘backstage’”. Also, Shinee performed on Music Station twice, which is probably the most prestigious out of all the music shows in Japan, so I don’t think that’s the issue.

Not denying JE isn’t one of the shadiest idol agencies out there though.

Are you talking about JE? Subtle reference is subtle -_-. That may have been the case back when TVXQ first tried to debut in Japan but I don’t think that is happening now. In fact, I think it’s the opposite. I think that a fair few Kpop groups are getting performances on music shows from “businesses working ‘backstage’”. Also, Shinee performed on Music Station twice, which is probably the most prestigious out of all the music shows in Japan, so I don’t think that’s the issue.

Not denying JE isn’t one of the shadiest idol agencies out there though.

Are you talking about JE? Subtle reference is subtle -_-. That may have been the case back when TVXQ first tried to debut in Japan but I don’t think that is happening now. In fact, I think it’s the opposite. I think that a fair few Kpop groups are getting performances on music shows from “businesses working ‘backstage’”. Also, Shinee performed on Music Station twice, which is probably the most prestigious out of all the music shows in Japan, so I don’t think that’s the issue.

Not denying JE isn’t one of the shadiest idol agencies out there though.

Actually, the problem would be solved if: Kpop groups stop aggresively marketing into korea, leaving only the niche market of jfans who have learned about kstuff through other ways than promotion, and if allkpop stops posting biased posts against jpop, —>like jgs came on ikemen desu ne, omg jgs effect, omg they wouldn’t have got .2% more rating without himself!

Actually, the problem would be solved if: Kpop groups stop aggresively marketing into korea, leaving only the niche market of jfans who have learned about kstuff through other ways than promotion, and if allkpop stops posting biased posts against jpop, —>like jgs came on ikemen desu ne, omg jgs effect, omg they wouldn’t have got .2% more rating without himself!

Actually, the problem would be solved if: Kpop groups stop aggresively marketing into korea, leaving only the niche market of jfans who have learned about kstuff through other ways than promotion, and if allkpop stops posting biased posts against jpop, —>like jgs came on ikemen desu ne, omg jgs effect, omg they wouldn’t have got .2% more rating without himself!

sorry, but that is not a grammar mistake…it´s a coherence mistake

If you´re going be “nazi” about sth at least do it right

sorry, but that is not a grammar mistake…it´s a coherence mistake

If you´re going be “nazi” about sth at least do it right

lucifer in japanese would sound weird :/ 

lucifer in japanese would sound weird :/ 

lucifer in japanese would sound weird :/ 

and the problem is not only AKP´s, Korean newspapers are like that.

Korean press and goverment are so propagandist. They´re even lying to their own people.

JE tries to limit all boy groups other than its own – even non idol jgroups. But really, recently its become the opposite. I mean that show with 3!! kpop idols and only 2 j ones? or replacing ayu with tvxq at the last minute?

JE tries to limit all boy groups other than its own – even non idol jgroups. But really, recently its become the opposite. I mean that show with 3!! kpop idols and only 2 j ones? or replacing ayu with tvxq at the last minute?

JE tries to limit all boy groups other than its own – even non idol jgroups. But really, recently its become the opposite. I mean that show with 3!! kpop idols and only 2 j ones? or replacing ayu with tvxq at the last minute?

esp because TVXQ are flopping since they´re not a 5 member group anymore.

AVEX doesn´t know what to do to make them popular again.

esp because TVXQ are flopping since they´re not a 5 member group anymore.

AVEX doesn´t know what to do to make them popular again.

esp because TVXQ are flopping since they´re not a 5 member group anymore.

AVEX doesn´t know what to do to make them popular again.

Avex fails at everything promotion wise imo.

Avex fails at everything promotion wise imo.

Actually, in AKP, I rarely see any mention of Jpop at all. That’s because we don’t have Japanese promoters in Kpop, otherwise we’d have a lot. (The last article I saw on Jpop was the news of a Japanese man who publicly expressed his distaste with Kpop, forgive me for I have forgotten his name. But naturally, Kpop fans won’t exactly throw flowers at that article). 

And like I said, no one really talks at all about Jpop, so I’ve never seen anyone bash Jpop in the Kpop social networks I follow. As for their claim that Kpop is the best, please think of it this way: Isn’t Jpop the best in the world for you? Wouldn’t you say that Kpop sucks in comparison to Jpop? There’s no point in arguing over basic preferences, for we all differ in them. We may as well all put on a bunch of jerseys and face paintings at a sport’s stadium and scream at each other from across the field, because this whole thing is like a big preference competition in which no side will ever be considered correct to the opposing side. 

Please, look over these small things and concentrate on the artists. If you can honestly look at a Korean artist perform and tell me that you are not in any way attracted to their music/performance, despite their ethnicity, I would greatly appreciate it. 

Actually, in AKP, I rarely see any mention of Jpop at all. That’s because we don’t have Japanese promoters in Kpop, otherwise we’d have a lot. (The last article I saw on Jpop was the news of a Japanese man who publicly expressed his distaste with Kpop, forgive me for I have forgotten his name. But naturally, Kpop fans won’t exactly throw flowers at that article). 

And like I said, no one really talks at all about Jpop, so I’ve never seen anyone bash Jpop in the Kpop social networks I follow. As for their claim that Kpop is the best, please think of it this way: Isn’t Jpop the best in the world for you? Wouldn’t you say that Kpop sucks in comparison to Jpop? There’s no point in arguing over basic preferences, for we all differ in them. We may as well all put on a bunch of jerseys and face paintings at a sport’s stadium and scream at each other from across the field, because this whole thing is like a big preference competition in which no side will ever be considered correct to the opposing side. 

Please, look over these small things and concentrate on the artists. If you can honestly look at a Korean artist perform and tell me that you are not in any way attracted to their music/performance, despite their ethnicity, I would greatly appreciate it. 

‘Grammar nazi’ is a popular internet concept, though. I was adding that bit in a joking manner, hence my casual term utilization. 

‘Grammar nazi’ is a popular internet concept, though. I was adding that bit in a joking manner, hence my casual term utilization. 

I don’t care if they think kpop is the best, but stop saying everything else is inferior and ugly. on allkpop there was an article about jgs on ikemen desu ne, and the comments were like “koreans are way better than japanese” “japanese are ugly” “They suck compared to jgs” “they’re nothing in front of jgs”

How do you think jpop fans would feel?

I don’t care if they think kpop is the best, but stop saying everything else is inferior and ugly. on allkpop there was an article about jgs on ikemen desu ne, and the comments were like “koreans are way better than japanese” “japanese are ugly” “They suck compared to jgs” “they’re nothing in front of jgs”

How do you think jpop fans would feel?

So they limit Japanese boy groups too?! Wow O.O  Are there a lot of boy groups that aren’t signed with JE? 

So they limit Japanese boy groups too?! Wow O.O  Are there a lot of boy groups that aren’t signed with JE? 

So they limit Japanese boy groups too?! Wow O.O  Are there a lot of boy groups that aren’t signed with JE? 

The fans are the main reason, yes. Every conversation I’ve had with a Shawol on the internet has not been pleasant. I know they aren’t all like that, but it still feels like that to me. I suppose that’s really sad because I have a really good friend irl that is a Shawol. But I still have those other reasons, and those reasons are for every Kpop group in Japan, not just Shinee.

I think at first Hallyu looked like it was going to take over, but recent sales of groups that have debuted more recently imply that it is not taking over anymore. The only groups that have been successful since the start of this wave have been SNSD and Kara. 

When did I criticise a group on their artistic standards?

Out of curiosity, do you like any Japanese artists? Or are you on TH for the lols?

The fans are the main reason, yes. Every conversation I’ve had with a Shawol on the internet has not been pleasant. I know they aren’t all like that, but it still feels like that to me. I suppose that’s really sad because I have a really good friend irl that is a Shawol. But I still have those other reasons, and those reasons are for every Kpop group in Japan, not just Shinee.

I think at first Hallyu looked like it was going to take over, but recent sales of groups that have debuted more recently imply that it is not taking over anymore. The only groups that have been successful since the start of this wave have been SNSD and Kara. 

When did I criticise a group on their artistic standards?

Out of curiosity, do you like any Japanese artists? Or are you on TH for the lols?

Dw I have issues with the companies that look after my favourite groups too.

Dw I have issues with the companies that look after my favourite groups too.

@Ely: Yep, Johnny has the monopoly over boy bands in japan. There are like no idol groups for males outside JE. The only male groups are like a few. And only some like EXILE are famous, so Johnny can’t limit them. I don’t care though, coz I love JE :P

@Ely: Yep, Johnny has the monopoly over boy bands in japan. There are like no idol groups for males outside JE. The only male groups are like a few. And only some like EXILE are famous, so Johnny can’t limit them. I don’t care though, coz I love JE :P

the fact that is popular doesn´t allow you to use terms wronly.

I won´t type LOL when it doesn´t apply just because it´s popular

the fact that is popular doesn´t allow you to use terms wronly.

I won´t type LOL when it doesn´t apply just because it´s popular

the fact that is popular doesn´t allow you to use terms wronly.

I won´t type LOL when it doesn´t apply just because it´s popular

I think they’d riot, and I’d say they’re absolutely right in doing so. Had I seen those comments myself, I would reply in disapproval immediately. I can confidently tell you that most (or at least more than the opposite) Kpop fans would retort to such disrespectful comments in the same way. I apologize in behalf of those close minded Kpop fans who’ve insulted Japanese culture in such way. There will always be racist comments, and though nothing can be done to stop them, all I can do is apologize and ask that you not associate those people with the rest of the population. 

I think they’d riot, and I’d say they’re absolutely right in doing so. Had I seen those comments myself, I would reply in disapproval immediately. I can confidently tell you that most (or at least more than the opposite) Kpop fans would retort to such disrespectful comments in the same way. I apologize in behalf of those close minded Kpop fans who’ve insulted Japanese culture in such way. There will always be racist comments, and though nothing can be done to stop them, all I can do is apologize and ask that you not associate those people with the rest of the population. 

I think they’d riot, and I’d say they’re absolutely right in doing so. Had I seen those comments myself, I would reply in disapproval immediately. I can confidently tell you that most (or at least more than the opposite) Kpop fans would retort to such disrespectful comments in the same way. I apologize in behalf of those close minded Kpop fans who’ve insulted Japanese culture in such way. There will always be racist comments, and though nothing can be done to stop them, all I can do is apologize and ask that you not associate those people with the rest of the population. 

Jpop get bash then, when we respond we get blamed..
Blame us for responding to those bashing comment from Kpop fans..
A few comment like 3 or 4 bashing I can still ignore it..
But if an article get hundreds comments and it is full of bashing and harsh comment from Kpop fan how am I keeping myself shut? I can’t!

* I listen to Shinee Korean song but a remake into Japanese, idk~~

Jpop get bash then, when we respond we get blamed..
Blame us for responding to those bashing comment from Kpop fans..
A few comment like 3 or 4 bashing I can still ignore it..
But if an article get hundreds comments and it is full of bashing and harsh comment from Kpop fan how am I keeping myself shut? I can’t!

* I listen to Shinee Korean song but a remake into Japanese, idk~~

What about the AKB articles when everyone calls them untalented sluts and make fun of their teeth?

Exile aren’t an idol group though.

Exile aren’t an idol group though.

I’m very sorry to hear that you cannot look it over like this. :/ I hope someday you will meet more Shawols that don’t leave a negatively radical impression on you. 

And yes, of course the Wave will die out. I could see it was a trend from the beginning. I’m not surprised if they don’t make it any furthur. (but I’ll still be here with a pumping fist to cheer for them even if they fail :3 ) 

I didn’t see you criticize a group on their artistic value. Which is why I commented on it. Please don’t misunderstand, I used the word criticize to mean judgement, as in whether you approve of their artistic ability  or not. I came to Tokyohive to get an insight of the Jpop fans’ perspective. I did it not for the Japanese artists nor for the lols. I am here to be exposed to another viewpoint, rather than only intake the proud POV of the Kpop fandom. 

I’m very sorry to hear that you cannot look it over like this. :/ I hope someday you will meet more Shawols that don’t leave a negatively radical impression on you. 

And yes, of course the Wave will die out. I could see it was a trend from the beginning. I’m not surprised if they don’t make it any furthur. (but I’ll still be here with a pumping fist to cheer for them even if they fail :3 ) 

I didn’t see you criticize a group on their artistic value. Which is why I commented on it. Please don’t misunderstand, I used the word criticize to mean judgement, as in whether you approve of their artistic ability  or not. I came to Tokyohive to get an insight of the Jpop fans’ perspective. I did it not for the Japanese artists nor for the lols. I am here to be exposed to another viewpoint, rather than only intake the proud POV of the Kpop fandom. 

Laruku baby xD! on the same date

That’s so far I can remember. And I think Bump of Chicken or Yui? Need to check on that.

Laruku baby xD! on the same date

That’s so far I can remember. And I think Bump of Chicken or Yui? Need to check on that.

O.O Oh dear… that doesn’t sound too good. So then, I take it that Japan has no laws against monopolies? This is interesting O: I recently learned in my Goverment class that in the USA, monopolies are quickly dispersed into other components. 

If you don’t know the answer, sorry to have asked, but now I’m curious to Japan’s take on this subject. xD

O.O Oh dear… that doesn’t sound too good. So then, I take it that Japan has no laws against monopolies? This is interesting O: I recently learned in my Goverment class that in the USA, monopolies are quickly dispersed into other components. 

If you don’t know the answer, sorry to have asked, but now I’m curious to Japan’s take on this subject. xD

O.O Oh dear… that doesn’t sound too good. So then, I take it that Japan has no laws against monopolies? This is interesting O: I recently learned in my Goverment class that in the USA, monopolies are quickly dispersed into other components. 

If you don’t know the answer, sorry to have asked, but now I’m curious to Japan’s take on this subject. xD

They did? I didn’t even know there were AKB articles. Was it during the VMAJs? Dude, I only read the top rated comments. LOL Too many comments on AKP to go through all of them. >.< 

But like I said before, I apologize on behalf of those who've insulted Japanese artists/Japan in general. 

But I think the wave was not that big to begin with tbh :/

I don’t really judge groups on their ability like that lol. I mean my favourite group isn’t that talented. But I still love them. 

Okay then. Sorry if you don’t like what you see :L.

But I think the wave was not that big to begin with tbh :/

I don’t really judge groups on their ability like that lol. I mean my favourite group isn’t that talented. But I still love them. 

Okay then. Sorry if you don’t like what you see :L.

But I think the wave was not that big to begin with tbh :/

I don’t really judge groups on their ability like that lol. I mean my favourite group isn’t that talented. But I still love them. 

Okay then. Sorry if you don’t like what you see :L.

Trust me, monopilising is the LEAST of JE’s problems. 

Trust me, monopilising is the LEAST of JE’s problems. 

I can’t remember. I didn’t see a lot of it myself, I heard about it from other people. 

That’s okay. And like wise.

I can’t remember. I didn’t see a lot of it myself, I heard about it from other people. 

That’s okay. And like wise.

I can’t remember. I didn’t see a lot of it myself, I heard about it from other people. 

That’s okay. And like wise.

Ty ^^. I need to check as well ><. When was HSJ releasing their song?

Ty ^^. I need to check as well ><. When was HSJ releasing their song?

Oh… then. o.o Hmm… I don’t know what to say to that. That’s the complete opposite reason that I was able to get into Asian cultures at all. I kept looking for musical abilities, rather than doing what I used to do and solely like a song for the lyrics. (x 

I can’t say it puts me to ease, these comments. In fact, at first, my heart kept beating quickly when I’d read them ( I think it was a ‘Fight or Flight’ physical reaction). But now, I can only bite my lip and hope that in the future, SHINee will do something to break through into Jpop fans’ hearts. This is the first time I’ve actually had prolonged conversations on the matter. (x 

Oh… then. o.o Hmm… I don’t know what to say to that. That’s the complete opposite reason that I was able to get into Asian cultures at all. I kept looking for musical abilities, rather than doing what I used to do and solely like a song for the lyrics. (x 

I can’t say it puts me to ease, these comments. In fact, at first, my heart kept beating quickly when I’d read them ( I think it was a ‘Fight or Flight’ physical reaction). But now, I can only bite my lip and hope that in the future, SHINee will do something to break through into Jpop fans’ hearts. This is the first time I’ve actually had prolonged conversations on the matter. (x 

HSJ single release on 21 Sept, “Magic Power” 

Seems a bit unfair. Does JE have very high standards for letting boy groups debut? Because in other countries, if you fail to get into one company, you can always go to another one. Seems that if JE rejects a boy, he has no choice but to not live his dream. ohgoshhowsad

Seems a bit unfair. Does JE have very high standards for letting boy groups debut? Because in other countries, if you fail to get into one company, you can always go to another one. Seems that if JE rejects a boy, he has no choice but to not live his dream. ohgoshhowsad

Lol. Japanese idols… Are not talented. A select few are, but the majority aren’t. It’s more based on looks. I know that one of the guys in my favourite group didn’t audition his singing or dancing ability, he just got in on his photos :/. 

That’s okay :) I do the same thing really when people say bad stuff on my favourite group’s articles. I actually like Shinee, I hope they do well too.

Lol. Japanese idols… Are not talented. A select few are, but the majority aren’t. It’s more based on looks. I know that one of the guys in my favourite group didn’t audition his singing or dancing ability, he just got in on his photos :/. 

That’s okay :) I do the same thing really when people say bad stuff on my favourite group’s articles. I actually like Shinee, I hope they do well too.

Oh, oops, didn’t see your comment before! But I wasn’t trying to be subtle, I just really had forgotten the name of the company. I only read it once. Sorry >.<;; 

So then it seems the tight rope has been loosened a bit? I wonder what could have caused it. .__. 

guess they didnt make much money from juliette so ..

No not at all. You get into JE based on looks over talent lol. When it comes to debuting… Well… I’m not sure how to put this. It hasn’t been confirmed, but there have been many ex-idols from JE and other rumors that Johnny Kitagawa (the guy that runs JE) likes to… Be intimate with his boys. If you get what I mean. That’s what I meant when I said monopolisation was the least of JE’s problems. 

But if he get’s rejected from JE I suppose he could go become an actor? Kinda close to their dream? Lol.

I’m not sure either tbh :/. Maybe TVXQ’s success?

@twitter-159522972:disqus Ah okay. Ty :3

Sigh, seriously, enough of all these invasion into Japan… Not enough KPop there?

Or they could become underground! 

 So then.. if an ugly boy loved music a lot, he’d probably go for the underground music movement? I mean, if it is a widely known fact that the boys are chosen for their appearance rather than talent, most unattractive boys might not even try it. Aww :/ 

I like it most cute shinee that….dark shinee….but I can’t wait for listen this version

You’re welcome..
I don’t quite understand 1 of your comment “ Johnny Kitagawa (the guy that runs JE) likes to… Be intimate with his boys”
mind explaining?

Oh, dear…..

I suppose yeah. But idols aren’t the only source of mainstream music in Japan. They could go become a solo artist, there are quite a few that are pretty popular. 

I don’t think you understood what I was trying to say in my comment though ><

Edit: Or maybe you did. Idek lol.

@brontesauraus: I meant that there are a few boy groups other than JE,  but only JE has idol groups. The male groups other than Johnnies that are famous are non idol groups.

:3.
He likes raping them.

Oic. Dmm then lol.

dhklagjdsklgj I was using a Kpopper mindset again. =__= I temporarily forgot that Japan has a diverse field of music, not only Jpop. So then, I assume JE is only a pop boy group company? 

Oh, no, I did. LOL I just didn’t address it. I’m not a prude here. xD 

Omg I just LOL’d so hard at that  :3 there. PAHAHAHAHAHAHA! A thousand Likes for you, sir or madame! 

Haha it’s all good ^^. Yeah JE is the only place that does male idols. There are heaps of girl idol groups though. But the only mainstream agencies are AKB and H!P.

Oicic. 

Anyway I have to go now T_T nice talking to you though ^^.

^^ I try hard.

What’s the big deal even if it’s true?lol.
South Korea too, I think. What on earth JYJ can’t easily perform everywhere..?such a BIG question..even Taemin ever said that the way to become a success artist is choosing the best company.

It’s been nice talking to you too! I hope I made a good impression as a Shawol here >.< 

Good night/morning/day to you! ^^ 

@6th-65544d050f52e031a1524fd206f0c890:disqus JE is talent agency, they have records label, J one records i think. JE idols may debut with other record labels, Tackey & tsubasa and Kis-My-Ft2 debut under Avex but they’re still under JE.. and JE artist are not just focus into singing, they’re acting and do some musical show also (called butai) eg: Takizawa Kakumei, Shounentachi, Dream Boys, Shock etc..

If you’re looking for singers and musician, you should widen your scope not on idols but to other singer such as : Aoyama Thelma, Koda Kumi, Utada Hikaru, Yui, Exile, Gact, Miyavi, Gazette (mix of Jpop and Jrock) and so much more….

Correct me if I’m wrong @6th-6913ad0c30493564557099e6da52936a:disqus & @facebook-750740725:disqus .. My knowledge is limited~~

Oh pfft yeah that’s a big issue in Korea too though. Have you seen how Cassies have reacted? Hell, even I’m freaking upset over it. What the hail does SM think it is? This whole restriction issue is seriously making it hard for anyone to see if JYJ has what it takes to make it as big as HoMin. It’s a deng big issue. 

And yes, the best company will often take one to success, but at least there are several companies at the top, know what I mean? It’s hard to determine which one is the best, but aspiring artists can at least have several tries at the successful companies. And even then, some who really wish to become an artist will sign on to anything just to get the slightest chance to show their abilities. 

O.O Oh dear… that doesn’t sound too good. So then, I take it that
Japan has no laws against monopolies? This is interesting O: I recently
learned in my Goverment class that in the USA, monopolies are quickly
dispersed into other components.

Its not an official thing, kinda like a trade secret. Other companies are free to make their own male idols, but there would be tough competition with JE..they’d probably flop. So they stick with female idols.

I’ve been into JE for so long but never heard of such thing that’s why I’m asking~~ nvm leave it to that~~

No you’re right :3 Johnnies are there to entertain us :P and their are many johnnies who are talented as well… (kame, jin, yamapi and kimutaku in acting, and ohno, tego, masu etc in singing ^^) and btw nakamaru has the best vocals ever – yes, i’m talking to you johnny san -_- make him have more parts!

dghjksfgsjkglfd Miyavi! I’ve seen a few of his videos. Goodfdsgksfgjfkdjdn I got so obsessed with those songs I listened to. xD 

So then JE is like a huge comapny with these sublabels. Kind of like EMI, Sony, Universal, and Warner. I see (: Thank you for this detailed clarification! ^^ 

I see. Thank you! (: 

I don’t think it’s about monopoly when it comes to JE..
JE exist for a long time…
I saw Johnny’s debut history in SMAP SMAP, 1st debut is Masahiko 1980~~
JE have been in the industry for so long so they get this much coverage after the company harwork for years~~~

Not to mention, Toma Ikuta.. He doesn’t debut as singer but his drama are good~~

When are they going to release an original song, come on now!
At first I thought this article was full of obsessive fans, but i see some intelligent commenting going on here lol
 

I have but two points to make:
1) Kpop fans like to say that we’re biased against ethnicity, and that we all like japan over korea no matter what. I have something to say. Which Kpop fan really isn’t? Most of you international fans converted from American pop. Even if they are basically the same thing, you will like Kpop no matter what, and Apop will always suck (e.g. SONES will be like “this american person sucks, my unnies are wayy better at the song!!)
2) I like Jmusic because you can become successful even if you’re not too pretty or good looking (EXILE, Daichi Miura etc) I mean in Kpop there were Piggy Dolls, but they’re the exception, not the norm (and they became thin anyways) It’s like impossible to have a good career if you’re not that good looking :(

Well, yeah, just like I said earlier that Jpoppers feel the same way about Jpop as Kpoppers feel about Kpop. Jpop fans will prefer Japanese music over  Korean, as Kpop fans will prefer Kpop music over Japanese.

  You can’t really assume that all Kpoppers that have converted from American pop don’t like American music (or their own country’s music, for Americans pop fans aren’t the only ones present here) off of a few people. I, for instance, like both. It’s like saying all Jpoppers will dislike the music they were originally into once they convert over to Jpop. 

As for your second point, I have no idea how to respond, because you’ve totally just contradicted what brontesaurus was saying earlier that it’s all about appearance rather than talent (or at least for boy idols anyway). I’m not familiar enough with Jpop to say whether the industry is appearance biased or not. 

puahhahaha..i just have too laugh at your statement bout kitagawa nice one..

This will do poorly. Instead of releasing those singles in a short amount of time, why not just release the full album?

Oh,goodness, but will the full albums cost more? The premium editions of these singles are already at a 50 USD price. T___T My pockets…. OTL

Well, I have seen sooo many kpoppers who say that their own music sucks and that’s why they listen to kpop. I dunno though, maybe they were a minority?

I’m not talking about JE ^_^ There are loads of others singers than JE like EXILE, AAA, w-inds (are they in JE?) LEAD (they are awesome :P) and all Jrock!

Oh, yes, if we factor in genres other than pop, there’d be a lower chance of it being biased towards appearance. I thought we were talking about pop, since you were mentioning Kpop and American pop.

yes, I remember reading somewhere an average album cost between 40-50 dollars.

Oh, goodness! Is that for the standard editions?! dlgjflgfdjglf imagine Premium! I can’t >.< 

Jpop does not only include Johnnys, Jpop also includes other genres :P Why do you think that Jpop = Johnnys?

Lol so true about the typical kpop fan, but the early kpop fans were actually jpop converted, like myself and i encountered a lot other people like that too. Now I find so many ignorant kpop fans its just ughhh it’s just embarassing how they can be so disrespecting to jpop artists like its some war and even more embarassing how they are so disrespecting to other kpop artists smh
I wouldn’t say it’s impossible to have a good career if you’re not good looking, it’s just that idols keep saturating the market and honestly their companies care more about visuals than music, it’s just sad. Idols groups weren’t the norm before, they were only a “part” of the market like Japan. You barely hear news about the non-goodlooking artists because intl fans don’t care about them so akp rarely posts about them =.=  

I don’t. That’s why I said “at least for boy idols anyways” and then further explained that I am not   familiar enough with Jpop to make my own conclusion on this topic. Please don’t twist my words. :/ 

Ah, I see ^_^ I wasn’t trying to twist your word, I honestly thought that you were equating Jpop with  Johnnies. Forgive me if I have caused you distress.

BTW can any shinee member tell me what the name means?i know that shawol means shinee world, but how did the group name come about?

although its a remake…i can’t wait!! Lucifer would sound interesting in Japanese!! XD

well juliette was a flop if you’ll compare it to their replay sales. its really low. i think that’s the reason why they are releasing again

they already had a jap ver of hello for your information.

taemin said that? wow, i didnt expect it from him to said that. -_- its like he’s being boastful.

and as for snsd, snsd and shinee are been promoted well, look at shinee’s sched at japan. its just that japanese like snsd more. snsd has more appeal to the general public than shinee

You speak the truth

they´re gonna keep flopping if they keep making it easy and reclycying songs

It means that they recieve light from fans, which then makes then shine. That’s how they made their name up. :)

Same ! I can’t wait for the mv too . The korean mv was bamf! xD

Oh, I get it now :P Interesting! And what about the extra e?

Haha, yeah! I guess they wanted to make it special? LOL.

LOVE LIKE OXYGEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 OF THE BEST~ <3 
ppl should just love who they love & listen to their music~ stop pinpointing at others~

LUCIFER JAPANESE VERSION,FINALLY!!!! <3 SHINee and BIG BANG are the reason for me to fall in love with K-pop. Cant wait for the PV <3 <3 

They’ll be singing in Japanese. The language is different. Do you still consider it as kpop?

This is just a remake. Overall, its still considered as k-pop,I assumed? K-pop or J-pop,I love both <3  

can’t wait, can’t wait, can’t waiiiiit~~ already want to hear and want to see the pv *w* although, I will miss Taemin’s long hair T^T

Ok first of all, I’m happy and unhappy about few things.. Lucifer is the A-side while Love like Oxygen is the B-side? I understand that Love Like Oxygen is kinda similar to JULIETTE, and they wanted a different song, but I have a feeling Lucifer is gonna sound really bad in Japanese, I’m a hardcore shawol but I wont be biased, I hope this is their last remake single, I want an original Japanese SHINee song, and I know SHINee can do it, anyway the covers look absolutely great, I’m so getting it!  SHINee do your best!

Really? You’ve never heard of it before? I thought everyone knew :/

The last album I bought was $45… ><"

And there are lots of variety in Jpop/Jrock. We can listen to all types of group like AKB48, HP, Johnny’s, w-inds, Speed, EXILE and their sister units, band like Uverworld, Scandal, Orange Range, flumpool, Greeen, solo singers like Yui, Yuya, Masha, Nishino Kana, duo like Kobukuro, moumoon, legendary like B’z, Mr.Children, Laruku, Hikki, Glay, Ayumi, Kuumi, even technopop trio Perfume. Dont forget visual kei. Idols group is just part of Japanese music scene and the only huge one are 48 family and Johnnys. I dont care whether Kpop is more popular or not. I’m very proud as fan of Japanese music.

Too bad them singing in Japanese won’t interest you in Jpop. 

oh hell no..love like oxygen? the MJ ripped off song?……………..no…………………………

..I dont remember SHINee ripping off MJ, the song is inspired by the King of Pop, as simple as that, so now most artists who covered MJ and were inspired by him are ripping him off? lol..

shinee still popular in japan?

when did they become so popular in japan?

do japanese celebrate harvest day too?

can i buy this cd in usa?

when did shinee debut in japan?

i am sure japanese song is nice too

i hope everyone is having a nice harvest day holiday this week

Can’t imagine Lucifer in Japanese..feels weird.
Kiss Kiss Kiss is such a beautiful song and it is not a remake..why do they still make remakes if original songs sound sooo awesome??Doesn’t make any sense.

Can’t imagine Lucifer in Japanese..feels weird.
Kiss Kiss Kiss is such a beautiful song and it is not a remake..why do they still make remakes if original songs sound sooo awesome??Doesn’t make any sense.

sometimes, the songs actually sound better in japanese…. but i have to wait and see how others feel

sometimes, the songs actually sound better in japanese…. but i have to wait and see how others feel

for a while, shinee were turning out so many great songs in korea

for a while, shinee were turning out so many great songs in korea

with the new format on akp, hard to take a preview of what is on tokyohive

with the new format on akp, hard to take a preview of what is on tokyohive

y doesn’t japan have groups like shinee or suju or mblaq?

y doesn’t japan have groups like shinee or suju or mblaq?

japanese agencies should know how popular these groups are from korea.

how doesn’t japanese agencies form japanese version of these groups like mblaq, suju, bb, tvxq, shinee, etc

japanese agencies should know how popular these groups are from korea.

how doesn’t japanese agencies form japanese version of these groups like mblaq, suju, bb, tvxq, shinee, etc

it seems that japanese guys form lot of rock group.  but pure rock is so old news.

it seems that japanese guys form lot of rock group.  but pure rock is so old news.

jpop really needs to have reform

jpop really needs to have reform

i love some of jpop groups but overall , they lack creativity now a days.

i love some of jpop groups but overall , they lack creativity now a days.

i hear that once, jpop was popular in asia?  i think they just lost their creativitiy

i hear that once, jpop was popular in asia?  i think they just lost their creativitiy

once jpop gt their creativity back, i am sure jpop will be alright.

once jpop gt their creativity back, i am sure jpop will be alright.

did the creative people from jpop go over to kpop to help kpop dominate the asian market?

did the creative people from jpop go over to kpop to help kpop dominate the asian market?

maybe creative people of jpop went over to usa?

do japanese people even understand korean language?

do japanese people even understand korean language?

i believe originally the japanese people came from korea

i believe originally the japanese people came from korea

so there are some japanese words that are similar to korean words

so there are some japanese words that are similar to korean words

i think what happend was, japanese language started with stringing together the original korean words.

i think what happend was, japanese language started with stringing together the original korean words.

and i think the japan’s emperor family is originally from korea

and i think the japan’s emperor family is originally from korea

koreans and japanese share lot of dna also

koreans and japanese share lot of dna also

and koreans brought rice agriculture to japan.

and koreans brought rice agriculture to japan.

i believe koreans also brought iron technology to japan also

i believe koreans also brought iron technology to japan also

and kimono style also came from korean culture

and kimono style also came from korean culture

now it is good to see japan and korea have good relationship

now it is good to see japan and korea have good relationship

korea brought martial art to japan too

Goodness, those CDs are expensive! I’m visiting Japan for the first time in a couple of months – i won’t be stocking up on lots of CD’s cos i won’t be able to afford them. 

CDs are so cheap here in the UK, i guess thanks to I-Tunes. 

u r so lucky

spammer alert. just saying

YOU GAIZ.

the only reason they`re “remaking” the song is so Japanese fans can understand it. they`re not doing it to be disrespectful or lazy, just so Japanese fans understand it. :) even i find it helpful because i understand japanese and not korean. 

lol… just making my points…

koreans and japanese are actually dna cousins

koreans and japanese share lot of dna materials and culture

Dude…. WTF?   You’re literly embarassing Koreans with your ridiculous comments.  I even doubt you’re Korean. Sounds like you just want to embarass the race lol.    Dumb troll.

lol… yes i am korean.

koreans also brought gardening skills to japan too.

i think japanese cooking came skills came from korea too

what started first? jpop or kpop?  

or did both come from cpop?

FINALLY!

oh yes, because clearly a country needs other country do it first to copy!!

because making music as a form of art and expression is not a quality of human civilizations!
srsly, dude

Thank you for calling Japanese people stupid

Sad that the top 2 articles on TH currently (→ SHINee’s & AKB48’s) have so many spammer comments. Just sayin’.

lol  i guess people like these articles

i see your point

i hope shinee will be successful in japan!

LOL coolest troll evaaaaaarrr

LOL coolest troll evaaaaaarrr

LOL

LOL

LOL

LOL

Awesome! 

love the first single and like the second 

Awesome! 

love the first single and like the second 

i wonder if KARA girls have japanese bfs

i wonder if KARA girls have japanese bfs

Im assuming this is making headlines due to spammers….

You’re not talking about my comments too are you? Because I was talking to that girl before not trying to spam ><. Sorry if I bothered you.

more than half of your comments aren’t even related to the article. how is that even making a point?

Nah, I know you were just pissed off at that idiot who’s constantly slandering our favourite Jpop idols. It’s totally cool, no hard feelings at all ^^

I hope you know when I said spammer comments, I was literally talking about you. In case you didn’t get my point.

Oh okay ^^ that’s good. I just thought because I’m always spamming random articles talking to people/responding to trolls/etc that you meant me as well, because I think I annoy people haha :/. I don’t like him either T_T he argues weirdly. He like takes one irrelevant point from what I’ve said and makes that the basis for his whole argument, even though it wasn’t even related to what we were talking about :L.

T’bad this release is entirely reworks of Korean songs.

what is wrong with you? I don’t see anywhere in spazzle_230’s comment that says Japanese people are stupid so I have no idea where you got that statement from. I certainly can’t understand either korean or japanese because I haven’t learned the languages so I actually wish Japanese and korean singers could make an english version of all their songs.

what is wrong with you? I don’t see anywhere in spazzle_230’s comment that says Japanese people are stupid so I have no idea where you got that statement from. I certainly can’t understand either korean or japanese because I haven’t learned the languages so I actually wish Japanese and korean singers could make an english version of all their songs.

Good Luck to them….on 10/12/11…

If am not mistaken this is also the said date that L’Arc will release their “XXX”…
And I surely will choose L’Arc’s.

Good Luck to them….on 10/12/11…

If am not mistaken this is also the said date that L’Arc will release their “XXX”…
And I surely will choose L’Arc’s.

LOL… maybe since L’Arc will also be releasing on that date…

LOL… maybe since L’Arc will also be releasing on that date…

Now… better say most Japanese people, not Japanese people…
Cause some not only listen to cutesy song… there are more to it…and some listen to electro-pop though… it just that… this song/ better say their song did not offer much…there is nothing new to hear it from…it’s just still the same generic sound that mostly all K-pop groups used…with the difference of only lyrics and rhythm arrangement… the beat and everything are just… they same that well… eeeeh…. 

Now… better say most Japanese people, not Japanese people…
Cause some not only listen to cutesy song… there are more to it…and some listen to electro-pop though… it just that… this song/ better say their song did not offer much…there is nothing new to hear it from…it’s just still the same generic sound that mostly all K-pop groups used…with the difference of only lyrics and rhythm arrangement… the beat and everything are just… they same that well… eeeeh…. 

YEA SHINee!!!!!!! I am so happy! I can’t wait to see the MV and to listen to them! I love Key’s multi colored highlights, he brought them back!

YEA SHINee!!!!!!! I am so happy! I can’t wait to see the MV and to listen to them! I love Key’s multi colored highlights, he brought them back!

Implying Japanese people is unable to enjoy SHINee´s music because “they don´t understand it”. Just that

I wonder how they enjoy American music, then. A large percentage of population is not fluent in English.

Implying Japanese people is unable to enjoy SHINee´s music because “they don´t understand it”. Just that

I wonder how they enjoy American music, then. A large percentage of population is not fluent in English.

Implying Japanese people is unable to enjoy SHINee´s music because “they don´t understand it”. Just that

I wonder how they enjoy American music, then. A large percentage of population is not fluent in English.

wth?? Why would you think that?? i`m not saying that Japanese people can`t enjoy SHINee`s music because it`s in Korean. Music is a universal language, i`m just saying that SHINee is doing this because probably some people who don`t understand Korean and yet understand Japanese would be able to know what the song is about. 

maybe my comment sounds wrong to you, or i worded it wrong, but this is what i meant, so please don`t try to mix it all around to make sound like i was calling anyone stupid. thankyou.

Awesome Sauce~ I love this song and cant wait for the Japanese version of it~… wow im late on the shine upkeep… oh well better late than never ne?